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 Post subject: Lost at sea
Post Number:#1  PostPosted: 06 Oct 2015 04:50 
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I have been doing some genealogy on Thomas Henry Armitage born 23rd Nov 1887. Hoylake Cheshire. on behalf of his great grand-daughter.Every thing is ok untill we reach the point in 1914 when he was last seen on board the Smack "Vigilant". as 3 hand B seaman, the skipper was his father Reuben George Armitage,and one other member of the family Reuben Armitage the youngest son.
Thomas was the oldest member of thr family, There were no adverse weather conditions when Thomas was lost, other relatives were out in the same area at the same time.
Checking on newspaper reports there was a german u-boat in the area, which stood off whitehaven, and shelled the railway station north of Whitehaven.
The British government were so alarmed at the event they issued propergander postcards stating there were no casualties.
The family has had no recognition of her great grandfathers smack vessel being lost that day , or any mention of his death.
I have checked all Death archives and records and can find nothing?
It would be great to hear your thoughts on this matter.
Reg. :scratchhead:I have found them all in the 1911cen.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost at sea
Post Number:#2  PostPosted: 06 Oct 2015 08:33 
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Hi Sir Reg
Do we have a home port or fishing boat number for the Vigilant?
Ive been through the Navy 1914 records for any fishing boats under their command and there is only 1, Vigilant no A534, registered in Aberdeen, as a fishery reserve vessel.
I dont think its our Vigilant (see Below)
Vigilant A534.JPG

A long shot Aug 1914
VALIANT, 198grt, 25 August 1914, off Whitby, captured by torpedo boat, fate listed as not known, crew made prisoners
Tuesday 25th August 1914

The German minelayer Albatros escorted by the light cruiser Stuttgart and a small TBF (Torpedo Boat Force) headed for the Tyne and a second group consisting of the minelayer Nautilus escorted by the light cruiser Mainz and a small TBF headed for the Humber. During this raid which would last into the 26th they captured and/or sank 16 British trawlers. The crews were all taken back to Germany as prisoners.

By the Tyne Minelaying Force

GY 518 Rhine by destroyers.

GY 1192 Harrier by V155

GY 93 Lobelia by V155

GY 1178 Valiant by V155 off Whitby

GY 1196 Mersey by V154

GY 72 Seti by V154

By the Humber Minelaying Force

BN 173 Kesteven 69 miles E by N of Inner Dowsing Light Vessel.

BN 174 Lindsey 70 miles ENE of Inner Dowsing Light Vessel.

BN 23 Porpoise 70 miles ENE of Inner Dowsing Light Vessel.

GY 277 Zenobia

The Valiant was scuttled, no reported casualties.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost at sea
Post Number:#3  PostPosted: 07 Oct 2015 18:36 
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a bit more info:

nationality: british
purpose: fishing
type: trawler
propulsion: steam
date built: 1900
dead (not found) dead (not found)

tonnage: 198 grt
dimensions : 34.4 x 6.6 x 3.4 m
material: iron
engine: triple expansion engine, 1 boiler, 1 screw
power: 55 n.h.p.
speed: 10 knots
yard no.: 273
IMO/Off. no.: 113138
about the loss
cause lost: charges/explosives
other reasons: scuttled
date lost: 25/08/1914 [dd/mm/yyyy]
casualties: 0

builder: Cochrane & Cooper Ltd., Beverley (Hull) this could have a variation of Cochrane Hamilton & Cooper Ltd and also with aditional name of Schoefield too
engine by: Holmes C. D. & Co. Ltd., Hull
owner: Atlas Steam Fishing Co. Ltd

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